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One Year Later … 🐐 🏚️ πŸ•οΈ

It seems hard to believe more than a year has gone by since I got the news that my landlord had sold my dumpy old apartment building and that a new landlord would be taking over – a fairly anonymous LLC – without a phone number who I wasn’t sure would even be willing to take a check via auto pay like I had done for 16 ½ years at that point. It also would come up with the biggest rent hike of my time there, but I admit it was the first rent hike in three years and it hadn’t kept up with inflation much less the rent of comparable places.

I was so damn paranoid about the whole situation – was I going to get evicted from my dumpy apartment? Where would I go? Could I afford to even move? There isn’t anything out there nearly as cheap as I currently live in, anything I would have to move to would have to have me dramatically rethinking my life, how I save, invest and budget each week. I wouldn’t be able to save nearly as much towards that land and off-grid homestead acreage I really want. I live inexpensively so I can save and invest, for that better tomorrow. I don’t want fancy shit, I want land where I can burn shit, shoot guns and have livestock like pigs, goats and chicken and grow marijuana and other healthier crops like vegetables. And not have everything packaged in plastic or rely on fossil fuel electricity and heat !!

So I thought it was time to move on, finally time to own my own land, a house and homestead. I did the logical first step – I went to several banks that following Saturday – chatted with several bank staff, filled out forms and got pre-qualified at one bank and pre-approved at another. I have an excellent credit rating, and if I wanted to sell off stock and dip into savings, I could actually buy a house with cash. I have worked many years, carefully saving money towards that goal. But I also was advised against that for tax reasons, though I’m not sure I fully agree that paying a monthly payment until I was 71 or 72 years of age was the way I wanted to go. With interest rates so high, even if the interest is deductible from taxes, hardly seemed to be a bargain compared to just biting the bullet and paying a big Capital Gains bill right now. At least my parents seemed to think a mortgage was the way to go, as did many of financial literacy books I read.

I started looking at a wide variety of properties. Based on my advice of an old friend, I started to travel the back roads looking at abandoned properties and lots, neglected lands along with real-estate listings on Facebook and commercial sites. Learning about the prices, acreage, what is out there. I spoke to a few real estate agents and toured one property next to my parents that was up for sale, but none really suited what I wanted. It seems like when you look at houses, the house and the interior gets all the attention while the land attached to it as an after thought. Many real estate sites hide the acreage setting, but they prominently list how many bathrooms and square feet, and whether or not the property has carpet and marble. Things that I don’t give a rat ass about. Property contains a house, I guess that’s a good thing, need some place to keep out of rain and sleep in winter. But I can pitch a tent or sleep in a hay loft. Smell of manure don’t scare me. And if a place is heated by wood, is usually seen as a disadvantage rather a benefit of house. I mean who wants to haul all that dirty wood and ash out? Build fires, deal with cleaning the chimney and that smell. I met up with one of my old buddies from Boy Scouts and he showed me around his 20-acre homestead, which I note is heated primarily with woods, and I questioned him a lot about how he made it happen. He gave me lot of ideas, but not all of it was relevant to my situation, as after all these years savings and investing, it’s not a money thing, it’s finding the right land in the right location. If I hate the crap of banks, I’ll sell stock and cut a check.

I thought seriously about building my own. If you have cash, it’s pretty easy to get land. Not so easy to finance. But you can finance a house. I got some books about building your own house from the library and studied them intensively. Really, that might be the best option, especially if I want to do sustainable and off-grid — and maximize the amount of money put into land versus house. I’ll take 20 or 30 acres of land, a run down trailer works for me. Good luck finding that, it’s rare you find anything on land. Fancy or otherwise — at least anywhere near the city. Much of what’s available is the same old, generic vinyl-siding crap that you see everywhere. Plastic houses for plastic people, heated by natural gas, oil or propane, consuming massive amounts of electricity and fossil fuels. I also learned about pre-fabricated cabins, which might be an affordable option, easier to permit and get code approval in a highly regulated state like New York, and might be easier with the regulations to work into a fully off-grid but fairly sustainable even if it would still involve things like septic tanks and regular pumping out and landfilling poop and at least a required fossil fuel heating backup. At least I could have bonfires, burn paper (and maybe a some thin non-recycable plastics illicitly to keep turn out of the landfill) and compost or feed food waste on-site to livestock. Have an illicit graywater collection system for watering plants. As long as I had enough acreage and it was an agricultural area I could have a wide variety of livestock, raise vegetables and cannabis to grow and smoke myself. But still on many levels, it seemed like such a compromise.

I had a dollar figure in mind, a quarter million, as that was a bit below what banks would finance and it made sense based on my roughly $100k a year income though I could certainly go either way a bit, finance more or less or maybe not at all. But how much money do I really want to tie up in a house and land? A bigger problem was there just was not a lot of properties that I liked much within a reasonable commuting distance from the city. I have gotten used to living in suburbs, taking the city bus to work for nearly 20 years or some days riding my mountain bike to work. Feels so fucking great to ride to work, wonderful for the mental health especially in that hollow by the Norman’s Kill. The idea of loosing all that time to motoring, dealing with the snow and speed traps with cops sitting around every curb, ready to write out $1,000 tickets and arrest you and jail you for a dozen for the most minor infractions just seemed absurd. There is so much freedom to riding your mountain bike or even taking the bus to work. Cops don’t like it when you text and drive but on the bus you can read whole books or watch people do stupid shit on tractors. I really don’t like driving, especially not my big jacked up truck. But driving is the best way to escape the cities, but to do that every day, fighting thousands of suburban commuters and other traffic to get to countryside, seems like such a frustrating challenge.

All of the places I really like were a minimum of 45 minutes from the office. There are plenty of generic suburbanite and urban houses, you know that cookie cutter crap with vinyl siding and marble cabinets. They’re so awful! Why would I pay my hard earned money for such shit, that I don’t give a rats ass about. Massive buildings, heated and cooled with massive quantities fossil fuels, that you have to fill with appliances and furniture, all while putting tons of gasoline into your car. The idea of driving some 300 plus miles a week though for a dream, devoting as much as 10 hours a week behind the wheel, seemed painful. And even rural properties didn’t guarantee much freedom, many if not most of them don’t come with that much land. It’s easy to find a big fancy house, not so easy to find lots of land unless you plan to become a full-time farmer. There just aren’t many homestead properties out there locally without neighbors right backed up to them. Properties that won’t get you trouble if you’re shooting guns or burning things that make a little bit of black smoke or are a bit pungent.

Plus, I am not set into living in New York State my whole life. I do good work and I like my job but I don’t necessarily agree with all the policies adopted by the state or general direction of how things are going. Right now, I could leave any month and never look back. Most of my stuff is old and not particularly valuable, if I had to start over it wouldn’t be the biggest lost ever. I wish I could live in a state with fewer restrictions on open burning and gun ownership. It would be nice to own whatever hand guns I want, just by going to a gun store, doing the instant background check which is never instant, and handing them cash and taking the gun home the same day. I know there are places out there that share more of my values, who see the woods as something more then a magical wilderness or something to be locked up from the public like the wilderness advocates would envision it. Dealing with environmentalists in New York can just make you so angry, even if I do hang out with the people fighting to save the remaining Albany Pine Bush. Oh, do I despise those Adirondack Advocacy and the Granola Eating Environmental Educator organizations like NYS DEC. Pennsylvania and West Virginia are such a refreshing change.

I kept looking. And the landlord took my checks, while I lived next to noise and constant dust, dirt and debris as first my neighbor moved out after weeks of leaving rotting garbage piled up next to his unit then heavy construction was underway day after day. But eventually it ended, and a new neighbor moved in. He was quiet but friendly, though for a while until he got trash service he left some trash piled up out back, though at least it was winter so it didn’t stink or get chewed by varmints. Things worked out in end – when my refrigerator died – the landlord relatively promptly replaced – after I cleaned things up in week before though it took him a while to remove the dead unit. But it was fine. My apartment is still so thread bare, worn out and kind of gross, but it works and it’s home for now. Yet, my worse fears did not come true. My paranoia and anxiety was not warranted. I did not get evicted, the new landlord didn’t torch the unit or demolish it. He actually renovated the unit next door quite nicely, at least by my standards.

Truth of the matter, losing my landlord of the past sixteen years, couldn’t have happened at any worse of a time, I was taking over as the Director of Data Services in a totally new suburban building far away from the team I had worked closely with over the past decade and a half. February is always the most mentally taxing month of the year, it’s when I got kicked out of college and jailed two decades ago, and it’s so cold and I can’t spend much of the month up in woods, smoking, drinking, and burning things. Well, unless winter camping. But that can be difficult to do with the cold and snow. Roads are closed, conditions cold and harsh. Starting the new position was super exciting but it was scary. It was a position I certainly had the skills to step upward to as I’ve been doing SQL, Linux and R programming for years now but it still was unfamiliar but very important database and I didn’t want to risk breaking it. Yet, it was first time I was the full Director of an agency, with nobody right above me in my office, and the employees I had to supervise had decades more experience then I do.

Still, despite the challenges taking over, I love my job, and are committed to it, and I see it as very well being the capstone of my career, and I do note that in less then 13 years now from now I will have option to retire at age 55, and I’ll have nearly 30 years in with the State Tier 4 retirement. I might not leave on my birthday, I could stay for a year or even longer — but after that date I have many more options. Not that my parents will necessarily live that long, and I might end up with their 5 acres, as my sister has made her life in a suburban house in Saratoga and it’s actually a fairly reasonable commuting distance from Albany and it has some land and barns, though it’s a lot more house then I would ever want but it has a wood stove and some timber lands and pasture. Yet, it’s still New York and I’m not sure if that’s where I want to end up eventually, when there are places in mountains and other vast rural areas far closer to values I so cherish but find hard to fully embrace here in Albany, New York.

It has worked out okay for now. It’s not a permanent solution, but what is in the world?

An interim solution shouldn’t become a permanent solution. But I don’t necessarily know what the answer is but 13 years doesn’t seem like a long time at this point in my life. I didn’t give up looking at property, though I started moving back cash I had started setting aside for buying land or a house back into the stock market, and decide to spend my summer into the fall, focused on traveling, camping, smoking pot and working like a dog at times for my job. Sometimes quite hilariously mixing all those things together to mixed results. Having lots of good fires in the woods, drinking some beer, living the dream, riding my mountain bike to work and all around town, and moving forward. It’s not the homestead, it’s not a permanent solution but I’m not tied down, feeding hogs or mowing grass, or otherwise spending my life devoted to a piece of land. But some day. It’s been a trip this past year, many tears and fears but also some laughter and good times in wilderness.

Below is a picture of fertile ag land the Batten Kill Valley, where i ended up hiking and exploring after a day looking at land not that far from there in Hoosick Falls, and deciding it was much too far away from work. But certainly that is god’s country, beautiful wonderful place, and the Folded Rock Trail is a great way to end a day, even if it was a cold March day. I could see living in the hills in a place like that, but not with a 5-day a week commute to the city.

Field Along the Batten Kill

Why I don’t talk much about owning my own land and living off-grid these days 🚜

Sometimes the best thing to do with an automatic investment is to just let it run its course. Let the bimonthly deposits go in on schedule, let the markets grow, ignore the ups and downs, know that better days are ahead but don’t give it a lot of thought in the near term.

The truth is my hope and vision for the future hasn’t changed much though my expectations have been somewhat tempered watching the rate the markets grow, my quickly aging parents, the progress of my career. I realize probably within the next decade my parents are either likely to pass on or retire to a nursing home when they are no longer able to take on their homestead. My sister has little interest in their five acre property in Westerlo, so it will either get sold or I’ll take it up as my own home.

It’s not everything I would want in land but there is a lot of possibility with the property and it’s within commuting distance of my current job. Another thing two I’m considering is that I’m within 5 years from having twenty years in with the state retirement system at which point I will get a big bump in my retirement benefits. My current apartment isn’t great but it works well enough and is super convenient on the bus line and not a long ride to work.

On that land, if it’s someday mine I could rework it more into my own vision of the land.

How Much Land Would I Need to Own.

When I own a land, how much land do I think I’ll want to own? I think I would want to own enough land to:

– Be able to hunt and shoot firearms at a backyard range, which would mean at least 500 feet from the nearest other house.

– Be able to ride four wheelers on my land, have some fun in the mud without making too much of a mess.

– Have enough land to hobby farm, such as pigs, goats, and other smaller livestock, which means they’ll need pasture and a bit of distance from the house.

– Be able to compost food, leaves, and other waste.

– Be able to burn trash and have bonfires, without causing a nuisance or smelling my neighbors burning their trash.

– Be able to listen to music as loud as I want to, hang lights outdoors, drink beer, and have a good time with buddies.

– Have junk cars and other equipment I’m working on, or saving for scrap use on my land without bothering others.

– Be far enough back from the road so I don’t have to see others or have others piering onto my land.

Obviously, none of that doesn’t require that much land if you have the right kind of neighbors and the right kind of state and local government that leaves people alone, but having more land often comes with having better neighbors that mind their business while you mind your own.

My parents have a little under five acres — surrounded on one side by city reservoir property — but I think I’d rather have closer to 50 with much less house and barns, as my focus would be the wilderness not having a fancy home or barnyard. Obviously, this is an expensive goal, but living farther out means you can get more with less money.

THE UGLY TRUTH ABOUT OWNING LAND | What They Don’t Tell You

I was listening to this podcast on the way in today. Taxes, maintance cost, acreage that is build-able, among other things are big considerations. More information is good, and while I don't necessarily agree with everything in this podcast, I am considering each topic they discuss carefully.

When I build my homestead trash incinerator! πŸ”₯

When I build my homestead trash incinerator! πŸ”₯

They estimate roughly 1 in 4 rural residents burn at least a portion of their household trash. With most things packaged in lightweight plastics and paperboard, a significant portion of waste can be burned. Rural households that burn can often only run to the transfer station or the landfill once or twice a year as most can go up in smoke.

Most of it is inevitably burned in smelly trash burning barrels which are typically 55 gallon drum with holes shot or poked in it. But it can be done better. Burn barrels are fine for disposing of trash in outlying areas but they have several shortfalls that very from a nuisance to a downright public safety threat.

  • They can smell bad when certain plastics and other trash is burned – as they tend to smolder due to the trash being wet and not enough oxygen
  • Some of the chemicals released can be toxic, especially when trash solders due to moisture and lack of air
  • They pose a fire risk – as many are used without screens and are placed near grass or trees

Hot fires eliminate the volatile organic compounds, along with many of the toxins like arsenic, dioxin and furans from incomplete combustion.

I think when I build my incinerator, I would include a fairly high stack maybe 5-6 feet high to create a good draft. A good draft would mean a hot fire, with less emission and odors. Forced air into the incinerator using a blower motor of some sort would increase the incineration process. While a fan would take energy which is always precious on an off grid cabin, the benefits of more complete combustion with less odor and ash might be worth it.

Adding scrap wood and cleaner burning plastics to the fire could further help increase combustion temperatures, reducing ash, unburnt waste, smoke, toxins and odors. Rip roaring fires can make ordinary kitchen and farm trash quickly disappear.

I would sort the waste that went into it. Food waste is good for composting or feeding to pigs and goats. A lot of and metal can be recycled – although maybe it would be better to burn the cans out then waste perfectly good water which may be precious on an off grid homestead. Plus who really wants to wash your trash?

I would also take steps to make sure that the incinerator is away from grass and trees, and that the smoke stack is covered so no paper or sparks could fly out. This would allow disposal of waste even during open burn bans and dry conditions outside. Trash accumulates regardless of the weather in our consumer society. Every time you go to the mail box there is more paper trash and kitchen waste baskets are quickly filled with plastic wrappers, bottles and paperboard boxes. Homesteads also produce feed sacks, pesticide containers and twine needing disposal.

It would be nice to use some of the heat from the incinerator to heat water for washing and other chores around the farm. A lot of city people pay to get rid of their trash, it would be nice for waste to be an actual asset – heating water and providing a useful service on the homestead.

There are a lot of good plans on the internet for improved burn barrels and incinerators widely used on farms and rural homestead. A hot fire can eliminate most waste, saving money and time, turning waste into an asset rather than more fill at the massive garbage dumps.

Ep 22:Homestead Startup – How you can get more land for less money

In this episode, we talk about how we were able to get a great price on land that wasn't even on the market at the time. We explain in three steps how we looked for land, found land that met our criteria, and negotiated pricing while considering start up cost and natural resource revenue opportunities.